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Have a look at the content available via this link.

http://www.titanicslastmystery.com/DNA-Statement.html

Now have a look at the content available via these two links.

http://findingloraine.wordpress.com/mtdna/

http://findingloraine.wordpress.com/harassment/

What is wrong with Ms. Woods?! Who is she kidding?! Why?! How much more vile can she get?!

Ms. Woods, you have been caught out. Your Grandmother has been caught out. Stop! Do the decent thing, and stop!

It is sickening to see your attempt at backtracking over the recent DNA test results. Stop trying to pretend there is a need for any second set of testing. The results are in, they are incontrovertible, your Grandmother was NOT Helen Loraine Allison, end of story, the train has arrived at its destination.

To continue with this disgraceful charade is utterly contemptible. Now all you are trying to achieve is the denigration of the Allison and Graham families along with that of Tracy Oost’s professional abilities and integrity.

You keep alluding to (well, ok, alluding is not strong enough a word, more like SHOUTING ABOUT), alleged unsavoury behaviour of certain Allison and Graham family members, who are no longer with us.

Whatever you think you have on them, it automatically pales into insignificance against the attempted fraud being perpetrated against them. Do you expect them not to have done anything to protect their families? Do you really believe they should have just accepted the Kramer claims? Can you imagine how hard it must have been for them to be confronted with such a disturbing and disgraceful situation? Apart from all that, Ms. Woods, why do you think anyone should even trust the authenticity of ANYTHING, (bit of shouting for you there), you have? Frauds are carried out by fraudulent actions and means, how could anyone be willing to trust their integrity?

Stop this now. Enough.

http://www.titanicslastmystery.com/

Have a look at this site. Ok, now if you do not know the story of the Allison family and their fate on the Titanic or if you know a little, then what is being claimed by the owner of this site is probably intriguing. Maybe it leaves you wondering ‘What if it’s true?’…..

Then bear with me while I attempt to set you off on a journey of your own to find the real truth.

What astounds me is that anyone is prepared to believe these incredible claims . If they carried out just the smallest amount of research then very quickly the entire story just collapses, even without the need for DNA.

If we accept that Ms. Woods did start out believing her grandmothers story, and who can blame a little girl for that, we must also accept that she herself has time to carry out research.

We are told about a ‘Suitcase’ full of amazing things which back the claims up. We are being asked to wait until it is “All published”. In the meantime we get soundbites and sensational claims and statements.

One claim is so heinous that a direct living relative of Evangeline Kramer (and indeed of Ms. Woods herself), and Dr. Lester Walsh, is being asked to accept that his grandfather was a peadophile.

We are asked to believe the impossibilty, for that is all it can be, of Mr Thomas Andrews escaping the Titanic and ending up in England with Loraine where he “Raised her as his own”. All without being recognized! This outrageous claim alone causes a total collapse of the whole thing and proves it to be nothing but a lie. This alone should at least set alarm bells ringing in everybodies mind.

We are being asked to believe that Loraine forgot who she was, who her parents were and that she had a brother. Despite the fact she was nearly three. We are being asked to believe she then just took Hyde to be her father. Really? Think about it. She forgot her name, her family and anything else about herself and her previous life. Can you truly take that seriously?

Now what I am asking you all to do is go read the information and claims on Ms. Woods site. Go read her posts on Encyclopedia Titanica http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/forums/titanic-news/8524-helen-loraine-allison-kramer-survivor-titanic-mystery.html

and also on the THS website http://www.titanichistoricalsociety.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1098

Then please, reasearch everything starting from the night of the sinking. Then your eyes will open to the real truth.

Update 21/10/2012:

Now Ms. Woods is so obviously backing out and trying to save face. See the above threads for details. Look how some fawn over her every word it is sickening. Please people, just examine the details of the claim from the very begining and you will see very quickly that the whole thing is a shameful lie.

Further update 06/01/2013

Well, here is another turn up for the books, have a look at this Marriage Licence Application:

record-image(1)

The above is an application for marriage between Lester Leo Walsh and Naoma Schwallie

Save the image to your own computer and note that Lester’s mother’s name is Evageline Irene Lee Hyde

Her birth place is given as “Calumet – Michigan” so why put that if she always thought she was born in the U.K?

You will also note that Lester’s birthdate is given as July 27 1918.

So, if his mother genuinely WAS little Loraine Allison this would have made her… 9 years and 1 month old and just 8 years and 4 months at the time of conception

Citing this Record

“Indiana, Marriages, 1811-1959,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K3L2-PR7 : accessed 06 Dec 2012), Lester Leo Walsh and Naoma Schwallie, 1939.

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children’s birthdays

Lester Leo Walsh – 27 July 1918
Eugene Walsh -
Adele Ferguson – 1930
James Ferguson -
Patricia Julie Kramer – 21 July 1935
John Lawrence Kramer – 12 July 1937

What can I add? Anyone out there still convinced of Ms. Woods’ honesty?

Update: 17 February 2013:

I have recently been contacted by Ms. Woods who says she stands by her claims. All I see is a publicity stunt to gain interest in a book. Well, what a shock, a book before proof of claims via DNA. What bugs me is that people will buy it.

She also has a ‘cousin’ on board, what about the rest of her relations? I suspect they are far from supportive. This story is fiction; a deliberate deception from start to finish that is glaringly obvious to anyone with half a brain.

Update: 22/02/2013:

Have a look at the post number 108 on page 6 written by one Thomas Golembiewski; http://www.titanichistoricalsociety.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1098&sid=895dd6a586d1cabadd50308ae44fbd46&start=100

I nearly fell of my chair laughing, talk about gullible.

 

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